But at the end of the Day - ah- in that ever so 'final analysis' it's really one's own choice and journey, and none of us are going to revolutionise the world irrespective of whether we stay or leave. It's thus best to live and let live - and to know that acceptance is a process...
I’m never sure whether to laugh or cry when I receive yet another “Proudly Souf Efrican” e-mail, wondering if they’re honest statements, or defence mechanisms. Not being radically pro or anti the argument, I don’t have an answer.
I’ve been away for eight months, almost long enough to incubate a baby. In that time, I’ve incubated some new perspectives; although I don’t think I’m any smarter.
I’ve accumulated a diverse new chapter to my life; new career, friends and colleagues, a new home, vistas and adventures, and with it the old adage of starting life again from scratch comes to mind. That’s quite something; initially literally not knowing a soul, then experiencing the networks exponentially unravelling. And what have I lost, I muse? So, so much; emotionally, physically and materially.
On the negative side, it’s a land where people hook into global societal folly such as methamphetamine (known as P in
On a recent visit to
And then there are the tragic sufferers who desire to find solace somewhere on the planet, but whose Cirumstances simply don’t permit it. They’re the ones for whom my heart cries the most.
Posted by Darrell on 06 Apr 2009
Reply to Eve
Thanks for your response.
I don’t quite know if you could call the facts I got on the NZ ‘brain drain’ ‘religious research’ as it was all from the NZ Herald National headlines. It was information that was reported on numerous occasions and which is still being reported on a regular basis. It was one of the big issues in the build up to the NZ election last year so I’m sure most NZers would have known about it, some by just having read the local
It took me 5 minutes to confirm these facts stated by the media on NZ statistics (nzstatistics.co.nz) the latter of which is not produced by the media, but by the NZ government therefore is not ‘distorted information’.
It’s very good of you to trust what Helen Clark said but obviously the majority of NZers didn’t, resulting in her losing the elections. One of her labour government’s major failures was failing to keep skilled NZers in
NZ “Brain Drain’ is also not only a recent problem due to global recession, it has, in fact, been going on there for decades (funnily enough, just like their electricity crisis). It’s just that lately it’s become the worst it’s ever been. Politicians around the world, when electioneering, tend to say whatever it takes to win, be it wrong or right. (On a humorous note, a critic in one article in the NZ Herald, while referring to the NZ ‘brain drain’, quoted the joke going around NZ at the time as being: ‘will the last one to leave, please turn out the lights’. I guess that NZ also has its fair share of doomsdayers.
Eve, why, when skilled folk leave SA to seek what they believe is a better opportunity in another country do you class it as ‘Brain Drain’ but when skilled folk leave NZ for the same reason, you class it as ‘a natural phenomenon’? (To be or not to be proudly South African, The Witness, 17 March 2009).
How can you sit in New Zealand and mock ‘Souf efrica’ for its brain drain when New Zealand has “the worst ‘brain drain’ in the developed world” (Current NZ Prime Minister John Key: 4 pm Thursday 28 Oct 2008, NZ Herald – see below).
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How can you describe South Africans who have chosen to stay “as finding solace in their delusional dreams” (To be or not to be proudly South African’ Witness 17 March 09). How fair is that? You have a choice to be where you wish to be but we don’t.
What amazes me is how so many ex South Africans spend so much of their time criticizing and condemning
Posted by Eve Hemming on 02 Apr 2009
Reply to Darrell
Thanks for the research that you've so religiously done. I always appreciate constructive criticism. I'm sure that the Witness readers value your factual input. I have never deliberately given false information in my articles, which are filled with facts disseminated to the public, and peppered by my own perceptions, combined with an attempt to include both positives and negatives re SA and NZ.
I heard Helen Clarke on radio. It would not be my style to mistrust the then prime minister of NZ, and I quoted her verbatim.
I do believe that media can distort information and I am not able to comment fully on all your research. Suffice to say that many NZ folk are moving to Aussie, which is seen as the 'big brother' with more opportunities, and now with the global recession, this is a natural phenomenon for folk to seek what they believe is a better opportunity elsewhere. For that same reason many folk from the UK, Europe, China, India, Pacifica islands and parts of Africa, to name a few, are moving to NZ, bringing with them their own brand of expertise.
As a psychologist, I am aware that there are some fifty SA psychologists in
I am, however, aware that both Aussie and NZ have greatly reduced their foreign work permits lately, in an attempt to accommodate their own citizens, in a time of financial vulnerability.
As a freelance writer my role is to give my articles a personal and creative flavour, with some humour where possible. I hope in future that readers see my articles in this light and not as scientific.
Posted by Darrell on 29 Mar 2009
New Zealand Brain Drain
Late last year, when you started to write about NZ and SA in your articles I also started to read the New Zealand Herald online on a regular basis in order to get a 'big picture'. After reading your article "Thoughts from a Loo With a View" (Witness 17 Nov 08)I was left somewhat confused. In your article you quoted former NZ prime minister, Helen Clark (who was, at the time, electioneering in the elections which led to her government's defeat) as having said that
In the weeks and months previous to the date of that article and continuing up until the present day there have, in fact, been numerous NZ Herald national headlines about New Zealand's brain drain of skilled New Zealanders to Australia, how it's severely depleting the country's pool of intellect and skills and that it is getting worse causing the government to call it a 'national crisis'.
To name a few of many articles, refer to New Zealand Herald as follows:
1. 'Over 100 NZers pack up for Australia Daily'- Mon 21 April 08
2.'Record numbers leaving for Oz' - Oct 23, 2008;
3. 'Govs Top Priority: Stem Kiwi Migration to Oz' - Nov 29 2008;
4. 'Almost a Thousand Per Week Leaving For Oz' - Feb 27 2009
In addition to this, NZ statistics state that 47 800 NZers left New Zealand on a permanent or long-term basis to make a better life in Australia alone, between Oct 2007 and Oct 2008.If you take into account the fact that the NZ population is just over 4 million, that is a lot of NZers. (Just out of interest, in the same period 2 246 South Africans arrived in NZ on a permanent or long term basis.)
Eve,either the NZ government, NZ statistics and the NZ Herald are misinforming the NZ public or Helen Clark is, and subsequently you are misinforming the Witness readership.
While I am really pleased that you are happy and content in NZ,and hearing your personal opinions is really interesting, when you are giving information in order to draw comparisons, please check your facts. It seems that your obvious prejudice towards SA is leading to you being blinded to the 'whole picture' and to using inaccurate information. In my opinion, this spoils your otherwise interesting articles.
Posted by Eve Hemming on 18 Mar 2009
Reply to Frank
Hiya Frank. I enjoyed your response and agree that one becomes part of a new land far quicker if one assimilates other cultures, instead of sticking with one's ex pats and trying to replicate 'home' ! My office is in the West and my husband and I live very happily in the
Posted by Frank on 17 Mar 2009
It takes a little time.
Eve, it takes a bit of time. I left before the change of government, and despite some homesickness, I did not return for six years - by which time the homesickness had gone (Seems to last for three or so years). On landing at Heathrow after the visit, I breathed a huge sigh of relief to be back home - as this is what the
The reason I think the
I'm now in
Get a grip people! If you want to be South African, by all means, please do so - in YOUR country. If you want to take advantage of all NZ has to offer, assimilate.
Posted by Sue on 17 Mar 2009
Hi Eve This is a great article. I have been living in
And now it's July 2011. It's an ongoing part of life - emigration, immigration, refugees, displaced people, illegal migrants.... children of the universe. To you all, wherever you may be on the planet; staying, going, returning, living, being, seeking...I wish you happiness, freedom, safety, joy, love, acceptance, forgiveness and inner peace - Namaste - Eve